Cried all night!

[nanci27]

Lola has a big pen and I put her in a few times giving her a treat and making all happy for her then. she goes in at 9:30 and she wimpers with me being on the outside but is ok, she then fall fast asleep, 12:00 yelp so loud I could not leave her she was hysterical really never had this problem before with puppies I mean this was loud she had water had eaten at the right times that day she had done a poo and wee before bed, So my hubby went downstairs and she had done a poo and stepped in it and walked all over the pen, I know she was crying for someone to come, caue she shut up when he walked in we ended up sleeping on the sofa with her not a good start!
But what should I do tonight put the pen in our room, leave her downstairs in the pen, what do you think I dont want a dog that cant sleep alone, also how long should i put her in the pen for in the day for her to get used to it, I have used a crate/pen before and am worrying about everything!

[Fawn's Mom]

We had this problem also with Morgan...she would cry herself to sleep and then wake up yelping because she was lonely.
Try getting a smaller move-able crate or move her pen up into your bedroom.
We got a smaller crate and put her in it right next to our bed.
I would turn off the light, stick my fingers in the crate, let her sniff/lick them and tell her to go to bed.
The 1st night we did this, she slept the whole night through.
For Morgan, just being in the same room with us at first was enough. Eventually, we started letting her sleep on her big pillow next to my husband. She now sleeps there all night on the floor, except for when she decides to get up at 3:00 to get a drink of water and sleep out in the living room in her kennel...which she does a couple times a week.
Your baby just wants to be close to you...she misses her brothers and sisters and needs to be close to someone/something.
Good luck!

[TheBoxerCrew]

you mean you DIDN'T like the Midnight Serenade? LOL.

Just kidding. George did this when we first got him. I spent the first week (bad Boxer mommy, bad) sleeping on the couch with him. Then my stiffened spine, arthritic hips and under-eye bags demanded a new strategy. I pulled out the carrier that I use for my 20lb cat and put him in it at bedtime with a "Ni-Night George". He fussed a bit the first night, but he was in my bedroom, and my big kitty would come check him when he whined and then George went back to sleep. Until the day he died, if I needed to crate him (even in the middle of the day), he was told "Ni-Night George"....and he would get in his crate. Had he not been destructo-dog, he wouldn't have had to be crated whenever I left the house. BUT - he did get freedom at night. He would go in the crate, but I didn't shut the door. Once I was in bed, he would join me.

Too big of an area gives them room to go potty and get away from it, so really doesn't help much with the housebreaking thing. The smaller area (enough room to stand and turn around, little more) plays on their natural instinct to NOT go potty where they sleep. NOW - there may be an "oops" now and then if something upsets their system, but generally, they won't go there. Also, for a young pup, the closer quarters helps them feel secure. They just came from having all their siblings and mom piled together and they were snuggly and warm and cuddled. Now they are alone, cold and lonely.

As they grow, their crates should too. Again, not giving much more room than they need to stand and turn. George was spoiled (and Mindy too), and had a few stuffed toys in with them to snuggle with (even at 18mo George had "snuggle-toys"). They help them trap in body heat, and for the smaller pups, it is a similar thing to having a littermate there.

[nanci27]

Thanks for the help I only got three hours sleep but, tonight I am going to put her pen in our bedroom its not gigantic its got enough room for a bed and a wee wee area, I don't mind about the hoisebreaking cause at the mo se is doing it everytime she goes outside but will have ti wait and see, do you think by putting her in her pen alone for about ten mintues a time and gradually getting longer is the best way to get her used to it?

P.s I don't work so i can devote lots of time to her!

[TheBoxerCrew]

every pup is different, so if you have the time, give the 10 minute thing a shot. I used mine only for bedtime and when I had to leave, and George had free reign of the house when I was home....but I noticed he would tuck himself into his open crate for naps.

The key is not to spend every second with them, as much as you want to....they need to also learn that it is okay to be alone with toys and no human too.

I am sure you and your pup will fall into your own routine in time that works.....in the meantime, it just means less sleep for you.

[nanci27]

how long do you think it will take to get her used to it, so I know roughly to tell my husbend cause he is feeling like a failure at the mo

[nanci27]

also forgot to mention she will sleep in there if shes tired but only when she wakes up does she cry even if we are in the room she just wants the attention do you think its best to just leave the room and let her cry, and if she does not stop do you take her out or just let her do it, I am sure it wont emotionly scar will it?

[K8IE]

Poor baby, she sounds like she gets scared when she wakes up all alone. Whenever my dogs were puppies and they woke up crying I would take them out to potty immediately, that was what they wanted 9 times out of 10 and they would go back to bed. Are you taking her out to go potty every time she wakes up? Those bladders don't hold as much when they are little. Keeping the crate next to your bed is a good idea, that way they know you are close. I always gave my pups something that smelled like me, a shirt or sock and that was comforting to them. As far as how long it will take, every dog is different, sometimes it is a couple of weeks, somethings a couple of months. The key is being consistent in whatever you choose to do. Like getting the baby out to sleep with you one night and then not doing it the next night, it confuses them and then they will cry more when they are expecting you to do one thing and you do something else. Same as with a human baby. I have found that a good schedule and consistency is key with my pups (and my son.) Good luck!!

[EMWAZ]

Originally Posted by Fawn's Mom

We had this problem also with Morgan...she would cry herself to sleep and then wake up yelping because she was lonely.
Try getting a smaller move-able crate or move her pen up into your bedroom.
We got a smaller crate and put her in it right next to our bed.
I would turn off the light, stick my fingers in the crate, let her sniff/lick them and tell her to go to bed.
The 1st night we did this, she slept the whole night through.
For Morgan, just being in the same room with us at first was enough. Eventually, we started letting her sleep on her big pillow next to my husband. She now sleeps there all night on the floor, except for when she decides to get up at 3:00 to get a drink of water and sleep out in the living room in her kennel...which she does a couple times a week.
Your baby just wants to be close to you...she misses her brothers and sisters and needs to be close to someone/something.
Good luck!

in the bedroom and the fingers in the crate, exactly what we did!!

[nanci27]

Well today I ditched the pen for a crate, I got one that she can grow into but its much smaller than the pen i have put it in the kitchen cause my room is right next to the neighbors and they are really stiff not nice people and she has a loud yelp. its in the kitchen and its open with some toys and a cushion, she goes in somtimes and plays but doesnt really like it, when she falls aaleep i put her in praising a being nice she sleeps in there then gets up and sleeps behind the curtains, do you think if i leave her in there tonight checking every so often for the toliet that she will be ok?

[nanci27]

ok she is in her crate, I gave her a treat and she has kong but she is yelping so much should i leave how long should I do for its heartbreaking

[Maisie Lynn]

When we got our little Maisie she was only 6wks old. She cried all the way home. She was a litter of 12 and it was a first litter. We felt terrrible to leave her by herself, being so tiny. We had a very large dog crate and the cushion I made for her was very very comfy. This crate was so large and Maisie was so tiny, that for the first two weeks my kids and I took turns sleeping with her. We had to leave the crate open of course and Maisie would get up in the night and leave the crate to drink water, eat a little and do her thing on the paper we left outside the crate. If she was with her mother she would be nursing in the night, and playing before sleeping. By two weeks I had had enough because I was tired. I would wake with Maisie and after she did her thing she wanted to lick us over and jump on us. We were tired but hey isn't any new mother? We noticed that she was going into the crate on her own to have a nap. We started to sleep outside her room, on the sofa so that if she was too upset we would hear her and go to comfort her and lay with her for a few minutes until she fell a sleep. We had a baby in the house. By the end of the week we were all in our own rooms. I had to shorten her crate so that she would not go to the washroom there. This meant that I had to get up early for her to take her outside. She'd run fast! We didn't want to move her to our room because we wanted her to get used to the area she'd be sleeping in. Eventually I took her water dish away and did not allow her to have any food after 9pm. This made it easier for her to hold on until the morning to be let outside. When I get up in the morning the first thing I do is go directly outside with her. We save the greetings for after she did her thing. We did not want her excited so that there was no accidents. I know some people would not agree with what we did but we had Maisie's best interest and I'd do it the same way over again. It also brought us all very close.