Boxers do bad with high protein and RAW diet?

[SargeLuka]

Originally Posted by jboboxer

I guess that's the question, the word "large breed" seems very vague. I've seen some refer to boxers as large and others as medium. I would consider a boxer medium size, but by definition for some it's any dog that's over 50 pounds, well the majority of boxers seem to by right at 50 pounds or slightly over. So if that's the agreed way of determining what's large, then it does seem boxers are large breeds.

Boxers are considered large breed by the AKC . But i will agree there are quite a few that fit into the medium category but i would say a greater percentage are large breed .

But the AKC only lists 4 sizes of dog tiny, small, medium and large . I think they should add a giant breeds list as well (Bernese Mountain Dog,Great Dane,Great Pyreness, Neapolitan Mastiff, Saint Bernard)ect .

[ehayes21]

Originally Posted by SargeLuka

Boxers are considered large breed by the AKC . But i will agree there are quite a few that fit into the medium category but i would say a greater percentage are large breed .

No offense, but that's not correct. You might want to refer to the Boxer Standard.

http://www.akc.org/breeds/boxer/

General Appearance
The ideal Boxer is a medium-sized, square-built dog of good substance with short back, strong limbs, and short, tight-fitting coat.

[SargeLuka]

Originally Posted by ehayes21

No offense, but that's not correct. You might want to refer to the Boxer Standard.

American Kennel Club - Boxer

No offence taken ! The breed standard dose state a medium build (The ideal Boxer is a medium-sized, square-built dog of good substance with short back, strong limbs, and short, tight-fitting coat) But the AKC lists them as large breed .

Dogs: Large Dog Breeds, AKC
(provided by the American Kennel Club (AKC))

[SargeLuka]

General Appearance
The ideal Boxer is a medium-sized, square-built dog of good substance with short back, strong limbs, and short, tight-fitting coat.

The standard is the rule for boxers only . So i think what they looking for is a medium size build within the boxer breed (not to small and not to large ).

[gmacleod]

Mmmm - the AKC is a registry body only. Nothing more and nothing less - which rather makes their opinion of whether a dog breed is small, medium or large a moot point. They do not set the breed standard, they merely reproduce it - on behalf of the American boxer club, who write it and say medium. One might also note that since the AKC is not even aware of what colours boxers come in (you can register a "boxer" of a colour pattern that doesn't exist within the breed), their categorisation of size really doesn' inspire confidence

That said, nobody's categorisation of size really has much relevance when it comes to dog food. Even the food manufacturers can't agree (on what is "large" and what difference it should make to the food anyway). One might be tempted to say who cares anyway, because much of the time size-specific dog food is nothing more than a gimmick. LOL - in some cases, the singular difference (other than the picture on the package) between food for large breeds and food for toy breeds is the size of the kibble bits. In short, I would suggest forgetting about the gimmicks on the packaging and look at what is inside the bag to determine whether or not it is a suitable food. Same goes for foods labelled for particular life stages.

The standard is the rule for boxers only . So i think what they looking for is a medium size build within the boxer breed (not to small and not to large ).

Absolutely not the case It says a medium sized dog, and that is what it means. Most of the standards for this breed around the world state quite specifically how large the dog should be (height and weight). That includes the FCI standard, btw, which is the one set by the German Boxer Club (you know - the people who invented boxers ).

[DiverDiva]

Originally Posted by SargeLuka

... But the AKC lists them as large breed .

Dogs: Large Dog Breeds, AKC
(provided by the American Kennel Club (AKC))

If you ask me, those lists look a little strange. I'm no expert, but along with the Boxer, the large breed list includes the Finnish Spitz, Nova Scotia Duck Tolling Retriever, and Shiba Inu. The examples of those breeds that I have seen are lots smaller than my Oscar, who at 21.75" and 55 pounds is somewhat small for a male Boxer.

The list of medium breeds
Dogs: Medium Size Dog Breeds, AKC
includes the Belgians (Malinois, Shepherd and Tervuren) and the Dalmatian. The examples of these breeds that I have seen, mainly at agility trials, are quite a bit bigger than Oscar.

One of my instructors has a Belgian Tervuren (medium) that jumps 24" in trials and is WAY bigger than another club member's dog, a Shiba Inu (large? - that's gotta be a mistake) that jumps 16". Go figure.

[jboboxer]

I guess the whole discussion is not if it's large or medium, but more the feeding habbits. If they think large is boxer and they think large dogs shouldn't have high protein, because of certain reasons is more the concern than just to put the boxer in a category.

Maybe should should have large and extra large. I mean if a dog is 50 pounds and one is close to 150 pounds, I'm not sure why they should be in the same category. It's like toy poodle and a great dane.

Seems if I google I can see both that some say high protein for boxers and others say low protein

boxers give high protein
Boxer | A complete guide to boxer dogs
Boxer Dog Breed

boxers and low protein
Let's Look At A Boxer Dog Excretory System Health Problem

[gmacleod]

LOL - it's hard to get a consensus when you're looking as broadly as across an entire dog breed That is, you will never find only one opinion.

A better way to look at the whole thing is probably to treat your dog as an individual. There are many people on this board feeding so-called "high protein" diets to their dogs, and there are a few whose dogs those diets didn't suit. There is really only one way to find out how your own dog will do on it (which is trying it or not trying it, but if you wait to find a consensus about how it suits the entire breed, you'll be on your 50th boxer before you find it).

[dsmit]

I feed Tyson the Orijen large breed puppy over the Orijen puppy food because it has a slightly lower calcium and phosphorus levels with a lower Omega 6 to Omega 3 ratio. It has nothing to do with whether a boxer is a large or medium breed. It is a breed that is known to have HD problems if weight is not controlled or genetically inherited.

To answer your question, high protein food is fine for your puppy. The calicum and phosphorus levels are the area of concern.

[jboboxer]

I have been reading a book by Dr. boogle I think his name is and he has a chapter dedicated on how high protein diet increases aggression.
Then last night I was watching Michael Vick's case and they mentioned that he would do all these things to increase their dogs aggression for dog fighting and one thing that was mentioned was that they were being feed a really high protein diet.