Garlic yes yes

cybie · #1 24th July 2011, 09:00 AM

As an 7,5 years old boxer dogs owner (2) I've been to several vets, holistic (we could say so...) and not. I've heard thousands of different views only leaving me in agony and my own findings through boxer world etc....

Anyway I read this closed post about garlic just after I decided to give my boy garlic for a few days after the third vet saying there was nothing we could do about his allergies and chewing feet and he is considered in good shape. I recently purchesed a couple of books for natural health and a barf book. Even those books had conflicting issues in them! Anyway to make a long story short, after 5 days of giving a clove of garlic to my dog with food everymorning the yeast infection is gone. FOR EVER. I also had him in organic apple cider in his water. Of course after reading the garlic no no post I returned home hoping my dog hasn't died yet.... Well I reduced his dose to half a clove for a couple of days and as I see the symptoms have totally disappeared I stopped giving it daily... Of course there was a clove in their veggie today which they ate lets say 1/4 each in two days.... (I'm scaaareeed)

THANK GOD I haven't read that dreaghtful post before because the chewing feet would be the same, its was for a year or so our problem and the soar paws made Cybe limp like an old pop... Now I'm scared, but I've heard so many no nos from vets that were so wrong through the years that God... It s so difficult to decide before reading thousands of posts.

Ps the result from biopsy said that the sample MIGHT be a sarcoma and LOOKS like the one that can... bla bla bla but still they suggested surgery to a healthy dog which actually may just need immune system charging....

PS2 I cure my yeast infections very effectively with garlic for years now, (when my system is down they appear now and then). I remember reading about this holistic treatment to one or two sites, the gynecologists shouting and threatening me, and now I see this cure in hundreds of sites but still a few days ago I had this answer from one that "garlic only keeps the spirits away and they do nothing to candida... I still wanna sue him!)

Anyway........................ Good choices are always hard to make

cybie · #2 24th July 2011, 10:57 AM

...and why don't any decent vets come with posts like:

caution! so many dogs of mine (not only 2 cases) died on anesthesia
caution! so many dogs of mine (not only 2 cases) died from injected invermectin which was given IN CASE OF mange....
caution! so many dogs of mine (not only 2 cases) died from frontline!
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I was just thinking about it

cybie · #3 24th July 2011, 11:05 AM

Garlic - big no no

cybie · #4 24th July 2011, 11:06 AM

...oh and we re flea free by the way too

Gatorblu · #5 24th July 2011, 04:08 PM

I used to give my first dog garlic and thought nothing of it. However each dog is different and will react to things differently. Garlic is a toxin to dogs and is related to onions another toxin. They contain thiosulphate which can cause anemia. However, if the doses are small enough and your dog has a good functioning liver you may never see any signs of toxicity. But if your dog has an underlying liver issue, or if you give too much, it can be fatal. Just be aware of the symptoms (lack of appetite, lethargy, and weakness, the mucous membranes of the gums and tongue become pale pink to white.) and if you notice them discontinue the garlic and get your dog to the vet. If your dog has liver issues just don't give it. I am glad you found something that works for you and your dog. But just like everything else it is best just to get as much info as possible and make an educated decision.

cybie · #6 30th July 2011, 08:56 AM

you are right
whats was that about the white gums you said..... Ah...... Anyway The yeast infections seem to be gone, so garlic will be a no no for a while....

thank you

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Originally Posted by Gatorblu

I used to give my first dog garlic and thought nothing of it. However each dog is different and will react to things differently. Garlic is a toxin to dogs and is related to onions another toxin. They contain thiosulphate which can cause anemia. However, if the doses are small enough and your dog has a good functioning liver you may never see any signs of toxicity. But if your dog has an underlying liver issue, or if you give too much, it can be fatal. Just be aware of the symptoms (lack of appetite, lethargy, and weakness, the mucous membranes of the gums and tongue become pale pink to white.) and if you notice them discontinue the garlic and get your dog to the vet. If your dog has liver issues just don't give it. I am glad you found something that works for you and your dog. But just like everything else it is best just to get as much info as possible and make an educated decision.

cybie · #7 30th July 2011, 09:09 AM

no, there pink.... I;m scared and mixed up with these cautions...
I guess even if its the terrible medication vets give (invermectin for ear infection!!!!!!!!!!! so many dead dogs from that!) or garlic... you have to be extra cautious...
Cybe is jumping like a frog... no lethargy etc symptoms....
I was just surprised I didn't see today the normal red allergy face he gets in his white muzzle....

johann · #8 30th July 2011, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by cybie

no, there pink.... I;m scared and mixed up with these cautions...
I guess even if its the terrible medication vets give (invermectin for ear infection!!!!!!!!!!! so many dead dogs from that!) or garlic... you have to be extra cautious...
Cybe is jumping like a frog... no lethargy etc symptoms....
I was just surprised I didn't see today the normal red allergy face he gets in his white muzzle....

If you are opposed to using medications that your regular vet prescribes, maybe finding a holistic vet in your area is a better option for you. AHVMA Home Page is a good website to start with in your search. I hope you find a vet that can help you with safely using holistic treatments to help your boxer.

I will admit to being confused by your posts about why don't vets say things about other medications killing pets. ??

sriley · #9 1st August 2011, 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by johann

I will admit to being confused by your posts about why don't vets say things about other medications killing pets. ??

Same here.

Acepromazine (ACE) should never be used on any brachycephalic breed. More info here:
NEED TO KNOW info: BEFORE your dog has surgery or a sedative

All medications (even homeopathic remedies) have potential side effects. As pet parents, the best we can do is work with our veterinarians to ensure that our animals are adequately cared for. In addition to consulting your vet, it never hurts to do some research of your own. My former vet prescribed Rimadyl for my first boxer in an effort to control his arthritis pain. While there are plenty of folks who use that particular NSAID without any issues, there are plenty of horrifying testimonials online from pet owners whose animals experienced serious adverse reactions to that particular drug (and speaking from experience, I would never use Rimadyl again on any of my animals). The pros and cons of any medication certainly need to be taken into consideration before administering them to our beloved pets.

Poetic_thing · #10 8th August 2011, 12:14 PM

Just wanted to say that I've used Oregano Oil and Coconut Oil to clear up issues with my dog and DH.

Dog: itchy paws, chewing them raw as well as edges of ears were dying off almost like he had flesh eating disease - vet could not understand found nothing. Give 1-2 drops of oregano oil with meal, ears are healed up - regrowth happening and paws no longer itchy and he quit chewing. I quit the oregano oil for a bit and itchiness started again, giving him coconut oil and within 2 1/2 days, he quit chewing his paws.

DH: re-occurring rash, tried Tea Tree oil and cleared up but came back. Used antibiotic ointment - cleared and came back and finally Coconut Oil - cleared.

johann · #11 8th August 2011, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Poetic_thing

Just wanted to say that I've used Oregano Oil and Coconut Oil to clear up issues with my dog and DH.

Dog: itchy paws, chewing them raw as well as edges of ears were dying off almost like he had flesh eating disease - vet could not understand found nothing. Give 1-2 drops of oregano oil with meal, ears are healed up - regrowth happening and paws no longer itchy and he quit chewing. I quit the oregano oil for a bit and itchiness started again, giving him coconut oil and within 2 1/2 days, he quit chewing his paws.

DH: re-occurring rash, tried Tea Tree oil and cleared up but came back. Used antibiotic ointment - cleared and came back and finally Coconut Oil - cleared.

I'm going to try the oregano oil and coconut oil for Johann's itchy back feet. Where did you buy theM?

Poetic_thing · #12 11th August 2011, 08:05 AM

I get the oregano oil at the health food store - we also take this when we feel a cold coming on or if we start to feel under the weather. The coconut oil I got at our local Real Canadian Super Store - I just made sure it was pure coconut oil - we use it for cooking and making popcorn too

if you google both you will get some really good reading!! Take care and good luck