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Old 3rd April 2012, 11:22 AM
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B cell lymphoma tumor.

Hi all. I'm new here. My grandparents always had boxers when I was growing up, so I've been a boxer lover my entire life.

My beautiful fawn girl, Bella, who is 6 and a half was just diagnosed yesterday as having a b cell lymphoma tumor by her eye.

It started out as a small bump and I took her to the vet thinking it was just another fatty tumor like she's had removed in the past. He thought maybe it was allergies, so he didn't give me anything for it. It didn't go away and kept getting bigger, so I took her back. He surgically removed it on February 6th. He said the tumor went all the way down to the bone and he got as much of it as he could. He told me if it grew back, I would have to go to a specialist to get it removed by cryotherapy. It was not sent off to be biopsied. (Kind of still mad about that!)

Fast forward a couple weeks later, the tumor started growing back. It looked VERY angry in early March and it seemed like it grew bigger every day! I scheduled an appointment at the University of Illinois Vet and they got her in March 19th. They tried to do a needle aspiration but did not get anything from it they could use. Since the specialist was 3 hours away, they suggested my vet in town could do a biopsy and he could send it to their diagnostic lab.

The results came back yesterday, and here we are. I still can't believe it and I'm in shock. B cell lymphoma. She isn't even acting sick at all. The next step is to do x-rays to see if it's spread anywhere else.

She is my best friend and has been with me through so much. Living far away from family, going through a divorce.. I love this dog to death and my heart hurts. She is what I look forward to going home to at the end of the day. I never imagined I would be dealing with her death so soon. I thought she was going to live a full life with me and be a cute grey-faced old lady.

Anyway, I'm really not sure what the next step is besides x-rays and probably blood work. I really can't afford to spend $4,000 on chemo and radiation. I would really love to go to a holistic vet, but I'm not sure how to locate one. I'm definitely switching her diet and I've read lots of stuff about flax seed/cottage cheese. I just want her to have the quality of life she deserves and I'm not going down without a fight!

Has anyone heard about Benadryl and Tagamet shrinking tumors? I found this website of a boxer breeder who uses it and it seems amazing.. almost too good to be true. Since it's not letting me post the link, if you just search for Bavaria's boxers benadryl, it's the first link that comes up. There are some testimonies on it saying that it works, even pictures of a dog who had internal tumors that are now gone. A girl can hope right?

Thanks for letting me vent! <3
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Old 3rd April 2012, 01:39 PM
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My heart goes out to you. I lost my boy at 5 1/2 years old and I felt like I lost a son... it absolutely crushed me and not a day goes by that I don't think about him. I don't have any experience with lymphoma, but many here do and can probably chime in with some helpful advice. Sounds like you've got a great attitude going into the fight- keep it up! Sending your girl some <<<positive vibes>>> and wishing you strength in your battle
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Old 3rd April 2012, 02:37 PM
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I am so sorry you got such awful news! My boy is 10 and when they told me he had cancer I was crushed. (He has hemangiosarcoma.) I also ahave a 5 yr old girl, I can't imagine getting that news for her. I understand looking for a holistic vet. There is an online directory AHVMA - American Holistic Veterinary Medical Association that can help you find one. There is also online support groups that can help. I hear Yahoo has a great one. I did not join it because as I was looking at it it said it was for those treating their dogs. With Thor's age and heart issues he is not a candidate for surgery or chemo. I have changed his diet some, and added some supplements, and took away another. So far so good for him. Hugs to you, and positive, healthy ((((vibes)))) to Bella.
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Old 4th April 2012, 12:32 PM
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My Zoe was diagnosed with lymphoma on March 12th, she is 7 years old. I have googled the daylights out of natural ways to fight it and never saw anything about the benadryl. I am going to look into it now! I opted for no chemo also, so I also didn't biopsy to get any further details. I guess that if I knew exactly what stage it was that I might get more discouraged. I have been giving her cottage cheese and flaxseed oil daily (part of the Budwig Diet) and started cooking for her..lots of meat and veggies. I don't know if any of it is working, but she loves the food. She also doesn't really act sick, she is just very lazy but I think part of that is due to arthritis and elbow dysplasia.

Thanks for the tip about the benadryl. We will be thinking of you guys. It is really heartbreaking to think about, but I just keep reminding myself that we are not going down without a fight and miracles do happen!
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Old 4th April 2012, 02:43 PM
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Thanks so much guys. I can't imagine my life without her.. she's my first dog as an adult and she's really like one of my kids. I can understand how you felt like you lost a son, Tuff Love. Losing a pet is one of the worst things ever. I still think about my rabbits who died. (Link was 4 and died in 2008, Sophie was 8 and died in 2011.)

I have been researching the crap out of everything and I just feel overwhelmed right now.

I'm not sure what to do, other than I guess just keep the Oncology appointment just to see if it's spread anywhere else and to see what advice they have. I really want to find a Holistic vet to help me treat her naturally. Thank you for the link Gatorblu!

Gena03: No problem! When I saw that website, I couldn't believe it. I've had Bella on 200mg of Tagamet and 25mg of Benadryl twice a day since I saw that last week. Her tumor has not been growing since and it looks like it's starting to dry out, but I'm not sure. I know that she was sick after her biopsy and I'm thinking it might have been because they cut the tumor and it released histamine into her bloodstream. She has been sick to her stomach again since a couple weeks ago, so the Tagamet and Benadryl is really helping her. I'm hoping for a miracle!

I've also read about Power Mushrooms, but my dog will absolutely NOT take them. Although, I got her to this morning when I roll the pills up in a ball with some refrigerated wet food. They are supposed to boost the immune system to help them fight the cancer. I have tried 4life Transfer Factor before when my cat has a corneal ulcer and it worked well for her, but it's just very expensive.

I've recently read about the Flax seed/cottage cheese mixture. I've read different things about the dosages though. How much do you give your dog? I also read that you actually have to blend the ingredients together, not just mix them. I'm also looking into trying this food called "Canine Health" By Dr. Harvey, which has no preservatives, chemicals or sugar. You just put the mix in a pan, add water and your choice of meat and it only takes 8 minutes! It looks like something that would be very easy to do.

Anyway, sorry for rambling! I'm so glad I found this forum!

Old 4th April 2012, 06:35 PM
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Only you can make the decision as to what the next step is, but it's definitely ok to hear stories from others as well as advice from vets before you make that decision. My vet did not really recommend chemo for our case, and I wasn't leaning towards it anyway. I didn't want to take the chance of making her feel sick just to buy myself a few months with her. But that is personal opinion!
As for the cottage cheese and flaxseed oil, I give her about 3-4tbsp of cottage cheese blended with 1-1.5 tbsp of oil, 2 or 3 times a day. It is a lot of calories, so I am giving less kibble and more fresh meat and veggies to keep her full. Her appetite is so big from the prednisone and she is constantly wanting to eat. I'm trying to eliminate almost all carbs from her diet because from what I have read, cancer thrives on carbs.
While I hate that you are going through this, it's nice to be able to share experiences. Please let me know what your oncologist says at the appt.

Old 5th April 2012, 04:06 PM
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Unhappy So sorry to hear..

My Hugo was diagnosed with sub-dermal hemangiosarcoma in 2009 and just had his spleen removed today due to some type of spindle cell sarcoma.

Radiation treatment is expensive. Hugo's was over $3000 and would've been over 4K except we took him to treatment and back home everyday so he didn't need to be boarded. But I'd ask an Oncologist about Chemo. It's not expensive and there are even some clinical trials they can get into where all the meds are free. Hugo did that and even when we were out of the trial, his chemo was a reasonable $62/month.

*mommy of Hugo- 10 1/2 year old fawn male Boxer of the Millenium!

Old 11th April 2012, 07:43 AM
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I just made a new post about the results from the Oncologist appointment.. it went much better than I expected and the cancer hasn't spread!

The chemo I'm going with is only $80 every 3 weeks, so it's much more affordable than the treatment that is every single week (up to $4,000). She will have to have regular blood tests to check her progress. I'm very thankful it wasn't worse and was probably caught early.

Thanks for your help everyone!

P.S. How is your Hugo doing? Spleen removal sounds very rough