OMG !! 2200.00 :o

samsons · #1 22nd September 2011, 08:35 PM

ok ~~ DH says I can get a new puppy ( he he he he eh ) ok ok ... he said HE was gunna get a boxer puppy , but I could & should pic the breeder.

( we are getting a modest amount of money in a settlement )

so , I start looking around at breeders ( online - i know thats not so great , but I was bored )
I come across a family that breeds , says all the right things, championed bitches & studs, screens ( potional buyers ) all the right health tests, yaddy yaddy ....
not that this is even relevant , uses my vet ( i always said she was the best ) a
and only a hr away !

I was looking at around a grand TOPS .. was hoping for more around 6/7 hundred.
BUT 2200.00 & THATS A LIMITED REGISTRATION !!!!!!!

am I out of my league here , I am TOTALLY against a BYB ... but can I really find a pup in my price range ?? DH really is set on a pup ( we do lots of fostering & rescue , but I still feel guilty BUYING a puppy)

I dont know ~ really looking for some advice on if this is even doable ... what should I expect ? I KNOW what I want ( lol ) and its apparently a 2000.00 puppy !! ( NOt going to happen )

so maybe a guide line on what the 'going price' for a PET puppy should be from a good breeder ....

darwinsmom · #2 22nd September 2011, 09:25 PM

Gosh, it's been a few years since I was looking (and we ended up adopting) and it does seem to vary regionally, but $2200 for a pet puppy does seem expensive. I remember seeing prices ranging from $1200-$1500.

Gatorblu · #3 22nd September 2011, 09:49 PM

That does seem high to me as well. However it has been nearly 5 yrs since we got Arabella. At that time it was around $1000-1200. But still with a recession going on you would think the price wouldn't go up that much.

Still check with the rescues because they do get puppies, or pregnant bitch. good luck on your hunt!

samsons · #4 22nd September 2011, 09:54 PM

yaa !I thought so ... BUt these guys where stunning ... waiting list is long .. and looks like the do everything by the book ... titled/championed dogs , only breed 1 time a year , house raised, tested out the but, just the kind of bbay I would love to have ....
not gunna happen at those prices ...

DH said .... well we will go with he laughed ......

and they had 2 more pups ( sold ) I think this site was just a "look at my pups & show off page" that where in the 3 grand range .....

sigh .......

CrazyCharlie · #5 28th September 2011, 11:06 AM

That seems really high, my parents bought their German Shepard puppy for $1600.00 and he is top of the line, Akc registered, German lines bred to be the best guard dog ever. I wouldn't pay more than $500 for a puppy. But thats me. Of course I say this now, I also said I would never have a car payment..... Here I am paying on my Fj cruiser..... So yeah.... LOL

RockyCody · #6 28th September 2011, 12:12 PM

That seems like a lot...but I have one word for you:

RESCUE!!!

You can find CUTE, adorable, boxer mix puppies at several rescues. I know you want a breeder/purebred - but if you rescue -you'd be saving this dogs life -AND it likely would be in your budget.

Our puppies, any breed, at our rescue go for anywhere from 350-400 depending on if the litter we get from the shelter got sick or how much medical we need to put into them - AND THAT INCLUDES THE SPAY/NEUTER when they become the appropriate age

Just a thought....

RockyCody · #7 28th September 2011, 12:17 PM

and one more thing - I'm not trying to pick on you, I really am not. The thought of getting a cute, beautiful, stunning boxer for our next dog (since Rocky was a rescue) has floated through my mind several hundred times. But I just couldn't do it - not after seeing first hand all of these dogs/puppies in the shelter who need help. They aren't kept safe in a 'home' enviornment with a breeder - they are in a cruel, loud, dirty, stinky shelter scared for their lives, especially if they are babies. And they aren't kept safe forever - they are killed when too many dogs are being picked up as strays, etc.

It is very tempting - but please consider rescue

TwoDogs · #8 28th September 2011, 02:04 PM

Rescue is great, and I'm a huge advocate---but it is basically a dice game. You don't know the parentage of that pup, don't know the health status of the parents, nor the temperment of the parents. Yes, you may be saving a life, but you have to be prepared to accept whatever that pup turns into. Are you willing to keep and raise an aggressive dog with a nasty heart condition and bad hips? Yes, you can get wonderful pups through adoption, but it is possible that you could get a pup with problems--behavioral and/or health. It may be less expensive in the beginning, but you may end up paying a behaviorist or vet specialist thousands of dollars for treatment later. If there were serious health issues inherent in the breed that I was looking to get, you can bet your butt I would go the breeder route. Knowing what I know now about Boxers, I would not have adopted my guy.

I love adoption, but totally respect if someone wants to sway the odds in their favor by purchasing a pup from a quality breeder instead.

samsons · #9 28th September 2011, 02:54 PM

ahh bad hips ~~ doing this one ... Sam is a rescue ( as have been MANY ) that have lived in & enjoyed my home. BUT we have a chance to have the kind of pup we have always wanted ( we also will still be doing rescue work ) .... we also have not decided on what we are doing ~ just looking around....

I just wanted to know what the going rate was for a WELL breed pup from champion dogs ( not in the line ~ but BOTH parents titled )

in my defense , I am VERY active in rescue work ~ & have fostered several dogs. We also give money .....

RockyCody · #10 28th September 2011, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by TwoDogs

Rescue is great, and I'm a huge advocate---but it is basically a dice game. You don't know the parentage of that pup, don't know the health status of the parents, nor the temperment of the parents. Yes, you may be saving a life, but you have to be prepared to accept whatever that pup turns into. Are you willing to keep and raise an aggressive dog with a nasty heart condition and bad hips? Yes, you can get wonderful pups through adoption, but it is possible that you could get a pup with problems--behavioral and/or health. It may be less expensive in the beginning, but you may end up paying a behaviorist or vet specialist thousands of dollars for treatment later. If there were serious health issues inherent in the breed that I was looking to get, you can bet your butt I would go the breeder route. Knowing what I know now about Boxers, I would not have adopted my guy.

I love adoption, but totally respect if someone wants to sway the odds in their favor by purchasing a pup from a quality breeder instead.

Everything that you are saying - can STILL happen to a 'breeder' born pup. They can still have issues and end up breaking their legs, they can swallow/eat stuff, they can have horrible temperments and aggressive behavior. I really feel like your dog ends up the way you raise it, period. Obvoiusly you can't control genetic things in your dog - so I understand why getting the pup from a breeder can 'guarantee' a healthy pup. But even then...you never know.

TwoDogs · #11 28th September 2011, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by RockyCody

Everything that you are saying - can STILL happen to a 'breeder' born pup. They can still have issues and end up breaking their legs, they can swallow/eat stuff, they can have horrible temperments and aggressive behavior. I really feel like your dog ends up the way you raise it, period. Obvoiusly you can't control genetic things in your dog - so I understand why getting the pup from a breeder can 'guarantee' a healthy pup. But even then...you never know.

Oh, the chance absolutely exists that you end up with a horrible temperment dog with bad health issues even if you do get one from a breeder. It is still a gamble, but what I wrote was that you can SWAY the odds more in your favor by choosing a pup from adults of sound temperment who have passed all health checks. You don't have the ability to do this with an adopted dog so it is more of a gamble.

I absolutely agree that how you raise a dog has a huge impact on its future behavior. But I have also had the opportunity to see genetically fearful and aggressive pups (exhibiting fear and aggressive behaviors FAR exceeding those of normal responses and at extremely early ages). I have also seen how different pups that don't have the benefit of proper socialization (during the critical developmental phase from 3-16 weeks) are from pups who have. These dogs could not become normal, stable dogs no matter how they were raised after adoption. Would they get better? Yes, but it would never be the same as if they had been genetically stable and properly socialized from the start. Were these extreme cases? Absolutely, but they do clearly illustrate that "the way you raise it up" once you get it isn't the only thing affecting the temperment of a dog.

And when I was talking about health costs, I was referring to those costs associated with inherited health issues such as surgery for hip dysplasia, medication to treat heart conditions, etc. not costs associated with issues like broken legs, or obstruction surgery which can occur with any dog.

larrygs · #12 29th September 2011, 09:16 AM

Without going into specifics, both Layla and Jack are flashy and come from very strong backgrounds, so we have some relatively recent experience. Keeping strictly to your question on price, $2200 does seem high. Unfortunately your desire for 6/7 hundred is low. I would expect double that. We encountered breeders selling at the high range, and passed on them. We were patient and it took us awhile but happily found ours. Basically waited for the right situation. Persistent networking and building a relationship with some of the breeders helped.

One of the difficulties is that we did not plan to show. Many of the top breeders will be reluctant to give up a pup to a nonshow home regardless of price.

BTW, while the pricing seems high, you need to consider all of the expenses a top breeder with show history incurs. They are doing it for the love of the breed.