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4th May 2012, 07:26 AM
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im starting to get worried
I've read recently on here that it is genetically impossible for a boxer to black well about 8each months ago my moms pure bred (papers and bloodline to prove it) got mixed up with my brothers boxer the only thing is my brothers dog is black as night with the normal white markings a fawn boxer has we were also told he was purebred and he looks like a boxer acts like a boxer well anyways she had a litter of 12a and I got one all white head chest feet and fawn body but now im worried he might not be a purebred I don't plan on breeding him or showing but am just curious if anyone has any input
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4th May 2012, 02:32 PM
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Just google sealed brindle boxer and it will send you to a forum on here explaining why your boxer looks solid black. I don't think you have anything to worry about him not being pure bred
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4th May 2012, 03:03 PM
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I agree, a reverse brindle can look black.
However, please encourage you mother and brother to spay/neuter asap, as well as your own boy and make sure the new owners of all the other puppies do the same.
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5th May 2012, 06:58 AM
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thanks
Thank you for ur input and i had planned on getting jack neutered as soon as he is a little older ive heard that if u do it to soon it could be harmfull and my mother is planning on it as well luckily the accidental mix up turn out amazing puppies and they all went to great homes the vet also said 12 is a huge litter for boxers
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7th May 2012, 09:38 AM
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I know there is a breeder here in east PA that is breeding specifically black boxers. Which is a HUGE NONO! This breeder keeps breeding sealed brindles to acheive the blackest ones and of course, inner-breeding them to get even mutated black ones. When I saw one, I was so heart broken. It looked like a tall boston terrier on steriods. No brindling whatsoever, solid black with flashy paws and chest. The owner was an idiot and paid $4000 for this "rare boxer" and when I tried to tell him about the poor breeding practices he argued every point. I gave up and just walked away shaking my head.
I am sure there are other bad breeders doing this. Again, breeding horribly to achieve mutated dogs just for the purpose of money. And yes, these dogs are AKC registered and listed as black on their papers. Thanks AKC for promoting this type of wreckless breeding. I can't imagine what type of genetic issues and diseases these poor dogs will end up with.
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9th May 2012, 05:20 AM
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thanks
Maybe my brothers dog came from this line because I can guarantee there's no brindle he's black very very black but in the end it doesn't matter what kind of mutual I ended up with I love him to death (even though it is 7 am and he can't leave his squeaky football alone) ill try to get pictures up later so u all can c him he looks very good
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9th May 2012, 08:30 AM
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A lot of us first time owners make mistakes. We fall in love with the breed and don't really delve into responsible breeding practices. Especially in PA where every country road has a sign that says "AKC Boxer pups for sale".
Nonetheless, we love our poor bred babies as much as any other owner. BUT, to learn from our mistakes, and do our research BEFORE we buy into the poor breeders, we not only help stop the breeders from making money, hoping to stop from breeding all together, we also help slow down the overcrowding of these AKC registered pups in shelters and rescues.
I am looking forward to seeing the pics. I'm sure he is a beautiful boy regardless of his lineage!
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9th May 2012, 09:04 AM
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Sorrymuch lilly im having issues with pictures I can't figure out how to get them from my phone on to here
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9th May 2012, 09:27 AM
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9th May 2012, 09:54 PM
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Reverse brindles can look black. You can look up my posts to see photos of my girl - she's a reverse brindle but doesn't have a single stripe on her. Most people just assume she's a black boxer.
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9th May 2012, 10:19 PM
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I may be just beating a dead horse but what's the difference between a black boxer and reverse brindle. They say that a boxer cannot be black so if there is definetly no brindle at all in the coat and it really is solid black then it can't be a pure bred am I right or wrong.
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