"Dog Listener"

[Andi20]

Taryn, Jean Donaldson goes in depth with her explanations and employs some psychological theories (yay, college up 'till now wasn't a total waste ) that Jan Fennel did not.
DL was more of an anecdotal, flowing; almost biography of her experience with dogs while CC is broken up into theories, lists, charts, etc. CC leans toward the academic side while DL consists of applied theories.
I’m a bit disappointed that DL is the one with the index and not CC; but if I had to choose between the two, I’d pick CC.
Both were great books but I enjoyed Jean Donaldson’s cynical approach I’ve also heard many people disliking the book because of the pretentious style in which she writes.
Lastly, CC overall offered more information. Since the books were of comparable price, I’d have to say CC is more “bang for your buck”.
I hope my little review helped

Andi

[Layla's Mom]

Thanks Andi--it did help!

[JulieM]

There is an index to the Culture Clash that someone compiled here:
http://www.clickersolutions.com/arti...1/tccindex.htm

[Andi20]

Originally posted by JulieM
There is an index to the Culture Clash that someone compiled here:
http://www.clickersolutions.com/arti...1/tccindex.htm

My life is complete now
Thanx Julie

[Charls Pop]

This information is very helpful... I do have one question - do these books the DL and CC pertain to the life span on a dog or just when they are younger?

Our dog is 1 year old (on Sept 23)... and we would love to get to know her and her species so much more.

Thank you for your response.

BP

[cashisking]

charls pop,

They are geared to help you help your dog at any age!! and very infomative! You and your wife will learn heaps from both books!

I liked DL more than CC, but to each his own, they are different writing styles, but both books are very informative, and educational.

Jenn

[Charls Pop]

Jenn... thanks for the info... I will look into BOTH and let you know what I think... the more you can know... the better!

Enjoy your day and thanks again.

BP

[jmb9101]

Yesterday I finally got a copy of The Dog Listener...I am starting it today. So now hopefully it will help with me training my two. They are great dogs and learn quickly but its me that needs the training!

[ssleighter]

Originally posted by jmb9101
Yesterday I finally got a copy of The Dog Listener...I am starting it today. So now hopefully it will help with me training my two. They are great dogs and learn quickly but its me that needs the training!

Amen....I borrowed a copy last weekend and I've already started it.

[jmb9101]

So far so good, but I was wondering, in the book, not far in, so I shouldnt be spoiling for anyone, it is talking about "ignoring" the dogs, so they know you are the alpha and make the decisions...should I start that now? It will be so hard to ignore them! She says she did it for about a day or two, and they began to understand. Wont they feel pushed aside or something? I dont want them to think I dont care about them...Did anyone else do this ignoring process? Just wondering...

I know I have a lot more to read...so god knows I'll be aksing tons of questions! Sorry!!

~Melissa

[Tulsa-Dan]

Read the entire book first. Then begin the Bonding exercises.

The ignoring isn't punishment. It is simply telling the dogs that when they demand attention, they don't get it. If they display proper behavior or behavior that is appropriate, they get all the attention they want. One doesn't withhold attention forever, just until the dog is relaxed and not demanding. THEN you call the dog to you and reward him by giving him attention, treats, games, a walk, whatever. . . just as you would normally. But the dog learns patience and that he can't demand attention from you but must earn your attention by displaying proper, calm, patient behavior.

But read the book first, then go back and work the exercises. I think it will be easier for you if you have a fuller understanding of the entire method before starting and possibly sending your dog the WRONG signals because you haven't read it fully yet, or didn't understand it completely.

Good luck.

[catneon]

originally posted by jmb9101

She says she did it for about a day or two, and they began to understand.

The important word to add here is that she did it for about a day or two before they began to understand. One important thing to remember is that this method is for life as you will see she repeats many times in the book. It is not a magic wand you use for a few weeks and then all is good forever.

Tulsa-Dan has given you great advice (when has he not given good advice hail Tulsa-Dan) make sure you read the whole book, when you have questions, write them down and continue reading, some of them will probably be answered further in the book, if not, you can always come back here and ask!!

I have to say I read the book three times before getting Gazou. I wanted to make sure I implemented the methods right. I sincerely believe it has worked very well. Gazou was by far the Alpha of his litter I knew if I didn't implement myself as the Alpha right away he would be quick to take the role, it is not something I would have wanted to correct later on with such a head strong puppy. Every where I bring him I get great comments on how well behaved he is. I also believe having implemented this now and continuing it will make his bratty (teenage) stage easier to go thru! (Any ways I hope )

Best of luck!!! and keep us updated!

Catherine and Gazou