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Old 01-05-2003, 01:56 AM
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I'm sure Mr Spock would of said something like this about the whole issue

Why sacrifice the good of the many for the good of a few?

Pep0987, just out of interest, has your Bailey been BAER tested for deafness? The reason I ask is that despite him being neutered you seem to be undertaking all the tests normally only done by breeders.

If whites were ever to be bred we'd have to add BAER testing to the list of already performed tests.

It is then that the extent of deafness, as the unilateral deaf dogs will then be identified, will be better guaged.

You can't refer to one dog in a discussion like this. One white dog could produce hundreds, maybe thousands of puppies, just like a coloured. 10 white dogs, 10 times as much. 100 white dogs - 100 times - ad infinitum.

The whole argument is a stalemate anyway

Breeders do nothing to prove the actual incidence of deafness in whites while at the same time the pro white group do nothing to disprove it. It's like neither side wants to be wrong but both sides want their cake and the eating of it.

The chances of the pro breeding of white boxers group "winning" is slim if any formal data were collected. Just look at the results of the poll here. They stay exactly true to expectations.

658 respondents
136 deaf whites - 20.67% (over expectation)
9 deaf coloureds - 1.37%
513 not deaf - 77.96%

Not one person in that poll has identified a unilateral deaf white boxer. Not one. If BAER testing were done you could probably expect that 20.67% figure to double. Probably the 1.37% figure for coloureds that are deaf would double as well.

That people would make 44.08 percent of all boxers deaf, 41.34% of them white.

Do we really want to add whites to a gene pool where nearly half will be deaf? Remember it is self perpetuating - how long till it becomes 60%, 65%, 70%

Nope sorry, there is no justification for this breeding of whites in any circumstance. Not until it is proven they don't carry a high risk of passing on another genetic problem - deafness. And that won't be proven as there is already enough evidence to show it happens and in big numbers.

So as always we talk in endless circles for no result. Not very productive.
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